If you have ever listened to the sports show The Herd hosted by Colin Cowherd you might know that on his show on Mondays he talks about sporting events over the weekend. He then goes on to discuss where he was right and where he was wrong in some of his predictions. I want to do a little of the same here and discuss one of my previous posts. In that post I mentioned a few penthouse units that were on the market, Pinnacle #1403 and Elizabeth #1502. I mentioned that I really liked #1502 at the Elizabeth.
Where I was right: I said that with patience, a buyer was going to really be able to pick up a good buy on this one!
Where I was wrong: I said a buyer might be able to pick it up for $300,000 to $400,000 off of its value at The Elizabeth! Boy….was I wrong!
The other unit, #1403 at Pinnacle sold on 5/3/2019 for $2,200,000 or $99,000 off of it’s recently reduced price. Now the buyer was probably thinking “ya, I got an ok buy, not a great buy, but ok!” (now to remind you, this penthouse was just 2600 sq. ft.)
On 5/8/2019…3 days later, the buyer of 1403 was probably saying… “Oh no!” because on that day Elizabeth #1502 just closed for …. Drum roll please…. $1,900,000! Ouch!
This penthouse was much larger and had less obstructed views. Now is the buyer of #1403 thinking they grossly overpaid? Now here is the Where I was wrong part comes into play. This unit had it’s priced reduced from $2,995,000 to $2,695,000. I was thinking $300,000 to $400,000 off of that price is where it was going to sell for. Normally, I would be saying “Awesome job” by the buyers agent that got his client such a great deal….however, not this time because buyers agent was also the listing agent! Who was the agent really working for here? You have heard me say before there are times when I will handle both sides of the transaction and other times when I would not touch it with a 10 foot pole. Well, this was one of those ten foot pole times! How does the buyer pick up this penthouse for $795,000 off of the “reduced” list price? The other consideration to look at is the fact that I also had a penthouse listing in that same building ( it was smaller 1 bedroom penthouse) and it sold for full price in 6 days! It closed two weeks before #1502.
When you are an agent handling both sides, it can be a tricky situation. In the situation of #1502, the listing agent took over the listing from another agent who had last priced it at $3,199,000. The new (current) agent took over the listing and convinced the seller that the price should be reduced to $2,995,000 ( I am gussing that agent said ”this is where I think I can get it sold!”) Now, 9 months later, this agent allows his client to sell it for One Million Dollars less? Wow. This is really a total head scratcher to me, especially after just selling the other penthouse in the building at full price. Did the buyer get a good price? I think a VERY good price! And while this is great for the buyer, I am not totally happy because I worked with some buyers who bought another penthouse at The Elizabeth 3 years ago… and it affects their value now. The market has not been going down the last 3 years!
What is the reason that this unit sold for $1,000,000 less that what the agent originally said it was worth? I don’t have the answer to this. This will end up being a tremendous purchase for the buyer. Not so good for the seller!
I mentioned how, with patience, you can get good values. I really did not see this one coming though. Now, the new buyer will pick up a stunning penthouse and put some money into it ( total kitchen remodel) and have an amazing unit. Let’s say this buyer invest $400,000 into this unit. At $2,300,000, you will have one of the nicest penthouse condos in town for $668 a sq. ft.! Compare this to the smaller penthouse units being offered at Vista for $1044 to $1228 a sq. ft. You have heard me talking about the benefits of buying some of the older penthouse units and putting some money into them… this is a prime example, and you will get to choose all of your finishes to your taste and chances are they will be even a little more higher end than what you will get at Vista …and for almost half the price per square foot! This new penthouse comp in the market will certainly NOT help to sell those remaining penthouses at Vista.
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A couple of days ago, Portland’s only $7,000,000 penthouse condo came on the market (actually $6,995,000) This penthouse is on the 27th floor of the 28 story Cosmopolitan. The current owners bought 2 units pre-construction and designed it into one stunning unit that has almost 360 degree views.
What I like about this beautiful Portland penthouse: I like the different feel of this condo from every other luxury condo on the market. While very white and somewhat sterile at first glance, I could see beautiful paintings and colorful glass artwork fill this unit with additional color. The other thing I really like about this unit is the floor to ceiling windows that are everywhere around you…a very stark difference to what you will find in the new penthouse units at the new Vista!
What I don’t like about this unit: There is really not much to not like about this condo. If there was one thing, I would say the fact that it is not a top floor penthouse hurts it just a little. Penthouse buyer’s…especially those buying the most expensive in town tend to like to be on the top!
So, what about the $6,995,000 price tag? This puts it at $1626 a sq. ft. Obviously a very high number for Portland. Let’s compare it though to other penthouse units in Portland. At $4,700,000 the penthouse at the Metropolitan comes in at $1344 a sq. ft. maybe a little high only in that the interior is very traditional and buyer specific. Now let’s compare to those over at the Vista. No comparison! At $1222 a sq. ft., the Vista penthouses do not come close to what you are getting at The Cosmopolitan. First of all, as you have heard me compare before, the windows at Cosmo are much more desirable (floor to ceiling all around) compared to the limited windows at Vista. Also, as I have mentioned before, the Vista penthouses are very linear and views are more limited to the east and west. #2715 at Cosmopolitan is very open in it’s floor plan and especially sets itself apart in the tremendous amount of natural light. Combine that with the 3 mountain views and far superior city light views at night. In addition, you are 6 floors higher! Now will this get it’s lofty $1626? This is hard to say. While this unit is totally custom with the finest in finishes, nobody wants to be the first to pay a new record price. In the end, I could see the final sales price be somewhere between $6,250,000 and $6,500,000 which puts it in the $1453 to $1511. At these numbers, I would consider it to be a value if you are comparing it to Vista at $1222…which I still believe to be high for what you are getting. Again, those units have been sitting for a long time now, unsold at those prices.
Will it sell for $6,995,000? It very possibly could as there are those out there that don’t necessarily want the best value…they want the best!
See more of this penthouse at : http://www.PortlandPenthouse.com and click on Feature Penthouse 2.
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The current market is an interesting one.We continue you see many price reductions on properties. With that said, condos in desirable buildings like The Cosmopolitan, if priced right, will sell in a short time. There are many units in the market, but special units, units that are not so typical can go quickly.
In a previous post I mentioned that buyers who have patience will be rewarded. We have seen many properties that have gone through 5-6 price reductions. Condos that were way overpriced are getting pummeled , especially those that have had that many reductions. A good example of this is a condo I have talked about before is the penthouse #1502 at the Elizabeth. That penthouse was originally priced at $3,650,000… a number that was incredibly high from the start. Now, after another price reduction, it is now priced at $2,695,000. If you may recall, when I previously mentioned this unit it was at $2,995,000 and I said I really liked it but that you will be able to pick it up at a better price later. That time is here! And now that it has struggled for a year on the market and gone through 5 price reductions, the sharks are circling and will eventually get an even better deal on this on. If you can pick up this one for $2,400,000 to $2,500,000 and add $100,000 for a new kitchen…you will have one stunning unit for a price much less than you will find in new buildings like Vista and The Cosmopolitan. In 2016 I sold a similar penthouse (#1406) in the same building. This would have been the ideal comp when listing #1502 and if it would have been priced correctly, maybe $2,850,000 to $2,950,000, it probably would have sold. Now, because it was so overpriced, it will probably sell for $300,000 to $400,000 less than it should have.
While I am talking about penthouses, I would like to revisit the new Vista condominiums. This seems to be a subject that my clients keep bringing up. When I wrote about the Vista penthouses in a previous posting: https://luxurycondosofportland.wordpress.com/2018/10/12/why-are-the-vista-penthouses-not-selling/ I believe at the time they had 1 penthouse sold and 2 were pending. (out of a total of 6) Now it looks like the two pending units fell out of escrow and only #2012 has sold at a price of $3,075,000. There are still 5 of the 6 penthouse units on the market.
Portland is soon to see two of its most expensive condos hit the market! Both of these penthouse condos will be in the $6,000,000 range. Based on their square footage they will be priced at $1192 to $1370 a square foot. Keep in mind, Vista #2112 is $1228 a foot. The difference is that both of the new penthouse listings are 7 to 10 floors higher. They are also totally custom with very high end finishes. If you are in the market for a large, stunning $6,000,000 condo, give me a call and I can give you a heads up as to where these penthouses are and to get more information, give me a call.
Are you looking for something a little more affordable? You will begin to see more condos coming on the market. Many will stay on the market for awhile and others will not. The ones that won’t are ones that are more unique like a special corner unit in a building or something like a 1 bedroom penthouse unit. When you have a condo that is unique, the urgency to not miss out is much higher. When you have 10 to 15 condos that are very similar like interior units at the Edge, Elizabeth, Gregory and the Elliot, there is no urgency or fear of loss. As you move forward in your search for a condo, work with a specialist, someone that understands the condo market and understands why one unit at $600 a ft make sense while another one does not. Just as a $6,000,000 penthouse at $1190 to $1370 a foot can make more sense than the very linear penthouse units at Vista priced at $1050 to $1228 a foot or why the 04 units at Vista were priced correctly and made sense at $922 a foot.
In my post about the Vista penthouses (see link above) I mentioned that the views from The Cosmopolitan were much better in the floors 19, 20 and 21st than those same floors at Vista. A 20th floor unit at Cosmo just went pending at $1122 a foot. Compare that to one of the 20th floor penthouses at Vista and there is no question…the views from the Cosmopolitan unit is far better and the amount of windows and natural light make it hands down a better value!
Brad Golik is a 15 year real estate veteran and is a condominium specialist with the market leader…Christie’s International Real Estate. You can reach him at 503-896-8856 or at his website http://www.LuxuryCondosofPortland.com
Every so often I like to let readers know when a unit that comes on the market that I believe is priced too low…today is one of those days! If you are in the market for luxury condos in Portland in the $1,200,000 to $1,700,000 range, here is one you should know about. Today, unit #2805 at the John Ross came on the market for $1,450,000. I believe this unit is priced far below it’s value. This unit, on the 28th floor, is selling for $265,000 less than the best possible comp …the unit directly above it. Unit #2905 sold in February of 2018 for $1,715,000. Now that unit had many upgrades in terms of the extensive remodel. With that said, that unit originally was on the market for $2,350,000. That price was certainly overpriced, and in my opinion, affected the final sales price to be lower than what it probably should have sold for. In the end, it sold for $635,000 less than it’s original asking price. WOW! With this said, the true value of that unit was probably closer to the $1,800,000 to $1,900,000 range. (You have often read on my blog the dangers of overpricing…this was a great example.)
Unit #2805 is priced $265,000 lower than what #2905 sold for…and in reality, when you look at what #2905 should have sold for you start to understand the value in #2805 being priced at $1,450,000. You are getting almost 2,700 square feet of open living space for a price you won’t find anywhere in the market. ( and don’t forget to compare these prices to those in the new Vista. For 2,700 square feet in the Vista it will cost you between $2,821,000 to $$3,335,000) Vista North Pearl
Now the biggest negative to this unit is the small deck space ( but this is the same deck space as #2905) not everybody cares about a deck…but MANY do! Another possible negative that I consider in units in South Waterfront is that it faces upriver. Why is this a negative you ask? Many people that buy condos buy them for views. While the daytime river view is nice, the nighttime view is mostly darkness. Another condo in the market that I think is reasonably priced is The Strand #901. This is a good example of the preferred views buyers like to have, which is a great river view during the day but at night you get the magical twinkling lights of the city. And at $1,375,000, it is a lot of view for the money!
If you are wanting to be at the bottom of the range in the above mentioned pricing ($1,200,000 to $1,700,000) another great view property to consider is a penthouse unit at Benson Tower, #2601. Priced at $1,199,000 this unit consist of the entire south side of the 26th floor. It has panoramic views that go from Mt. St. Helens, Mt. Hood, South to the Tilikum Crossing bridge, west to the sunsets over the west hills all the way back around to the St. Johns Bridge…wow that is some view! ( Check out those views at: www.PortlandPenthouse.com )
It is a buyer’s market out there and there are some values to be found. If you are in need of a condo with over 2,000 square feet, The John Ross #2805 is a value! With that said, if you want to consider looking at that unit, give me a call as I have a pocket listing coming on that is also near 2700 square feet that has great daytime views but better night time views than 2805. It was going to be priced near $1,695,000 but now with the low pricing of #2805, the sellers now realize they will be forced to go lower. Please give me a call if you want to see this unit or any of the units I have mentioned. 503-896-8856
Brad Golik is a 15 year veteran of the real estate markets and is a luxury condominium specialist. You can find him at his popular website www.LuxuryCondosofPortland.com
This is question I have gotten several times in just the last week. In fact, I get questions about Vista frequently.
Three words…Priced too high!
When The Cosmopolitan went on the market, it was a very different market. Buyers were paying a premium, and they knew it! They were hoping at the time that the hot market would continue and that the values would catch up to the the prices they paid. They were lucky because that is what happened. Today, not the case! The condo market has slowed a ton. Last month, of all listings in the Pearl, over 50% of those listings had to reduce their price. Days on market for higher end condos is now over 100 days! For many penthouses that have been on the market, we have seen multiple price reductions…not just one!
So, when I say that the Vista penthouse units are priced too high, I would like to support my comments. When The Cosmopolitan came on the market, I was very critical about the new building. The fact was that while I did like many things about the new building, I just had issues with the pricing. With the Vista, I believe that some of the lower priced units are in line with the current market. The penthouse units are a whole different story. For one, they are not like the cosmo penthouse units and do not deserve similar pricing. They are very linear and do not offer the floor to ceiling windows and views that you find in The Cosmopolitan. This is a big one because this is something buyers really like. In addition, look at the floor plans below. There is a stark difference between the amount of windows in The Cosmo compared to that of the Vista. In my opinion, this is why they are not selling! Also, the developers are asking 27th and 28th floor prices (The Cosmopolitan) for 19, 20 and 21st story units. I must say, I got a little giggle each time I saw the adds for Vista that asked “Ever wonder what the views are like from the Penthouse? My immediate thought was … ya, like the views from the 21st Floor at the Cosmopolitan that were priced at $875 a square foot…not over $1250 a foot! And to be honest, I do not believe that the Vista penthouse views are as good as the 19th – 21st floors at The Cosmopolitan.
The below floor plan is from the Penthouse #2815 at The Cosmopolitan. It offers panoramic views to the east with Mt. Hood and to the south with stunning city views!
Now lets take a look at the Vista penthouse on the South side #2108 currently priced at $3,216,000 . It is very clear when you look at them side by side the difference in the amount of windows/walls. Which is going to offer the better and more panoramic views…hands down it is Cosmopolitan #2815! In addition, #2815 is seven stories higher which adds tremendous value ( and if you remember, Hoyt put a premium of about $88,000 per floor above the 20th floor in the Cosmo).
Now lets take a look to the East. In most buildings, having an east view of Mt. Hood gets a premium. But, when your views are out of windows like shown below from Vista #2108…is it worth it?
Options! If you are in the market for a Portland penthouse, you have options. Unlike when the Cosmopolitan went on the market, a buyer has many more options then at that time. Back then, inventory was very low. In addition, condos are staying on the market longer and we are seeing many price reductions. If you are thinking about a penthouse purchase in Portland, here are a few good options:
1st: Pinnacle #1403 $2,488,000 – While you will be slightly lower being on the 14th floor, I believe your views are really much better. With #1403, you get true floor to ceiling windows with exceptional views to the south and the nighttime city lights. This unit was recently remodeled so you are getting everything brand new just as if you were buying at Vista! Like the Vista penthouses, this one offers 2600 square feet.
2nd: This is a penthouse that I like a lot… The Elizabeth #1502 $2,950,000 Another unit with many floor to ceiling windows looking to the West Hills and the city lights to the south. This 2-level penthouse has tons of character. With 3443 square feet, it is much larger than all six of the Vista penthouses and compares more closely to #2815 at The Cosmo which has 3131 square feet. This one has been on the market for awhile now after several price reductions… and you might be able to pick it up for an even lower price.
3rd: While this Portland penthouse is not in The Pearl District, it does deserve mention… #1301 at The Strand $2,395,000 – This 13th floor penthouse offers spectacular river, marina and city light views! Offering 3220 square feet with walls of windows, this unit offers some of the best daytime and nighttime views! If you can put up with some “white noise” from the rooftop deck, it offers stunning views…see below!
In closing, I just want to say I am a fan of any new condo building in the Pearl District or any other area of downtown Portland. With any luck we will get other developers looking at our great city with plans to build something that is uniquely Portland. As for Vista, sales have been much slower this time around. As I mentioned, there are some reasonable values at Vista…just not at the penthouse level! I do not believe that the designs, layouts and views are worthy of the $2,821,000 to $3,335,000 pricing.
Brad Golik is a condo specialist with Christie’s International Real Estate and LuxuryCondosofPortland.com You can reach him at 503-896-8856 or at firstname.lastname@example.org
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As many of you know by now, Pearl District Properties has shut it’s doors. I am still in the Pearl District and now at Total Property Resources!
Brad Golik is a condominium specialist working in Portland’s Pearl District, Downtown and South Waterfront.