If you have ever listened to the sports show The Herd hosted by Colin Cowherd you might know that on his show on Mondays he talks about sporting events over the weekend. He then goes on to discuss where he was right and where he was wrong in some of his predictions. I want to do a little of the same here and discuss one of my previous posts. In that post I mentioned a few penthouse units that were on the market, Pinnacle #1403 and Elizabeth #1502. I mentioned that I really liked #1502 at the Elizabeth.
Where I was right: I said that with patience, a buyer was going to really be able to pick up a good buy on this one!
Where I was wrong: I said a buyer might be able to pick it up for $300,000 to $400,000 off of its value at The Elizabeth! Boy….was I wrong!
The other unit, #1403 at Pinnacle sold on 5/3/2019 for $2,200,000 or $99,000 off of it’s recently reduced price. Now the buyer was probably thinking “ya, I got an ok buy, not a great buy, but ok!” (now to remind you, this penthouse was just 2600 sq. ft.)
On 5/8/2019…3 days later, the buyer of 1403 was probably saying… “Oh no!” because on that day Elizabeth #1502 just closed for …. Drum roll please…. $1,900,000! Ouch!
This penthouse was much larger and had less obstructed views. Now is the buyer of #1403 thinking they grossly overpaid? Now here is the Where I was wrong part comes into play. This unit had it’s priced reduced from $2,995,000 to $2,695,000. I was thinking $300,000 to $400,000 off of that price is where it was going to sell for. Normally, I would be saying “Awesome job” by the buyers agent that got his client such a great deal….however, not this time because buyers agent was also the listing agent! Who was the agent really working for here? You have heard me say before there are times when I will handle both sides of the transaction and other times when I would not touch it with a 10 foot pole. Well, this was one of those ten foot pole times! How does the buyer pick up this penthouse for $795,000 off of the “reduced” list price? The other consideration to look at is the fact that I also had a penthouse listing in that same building ( it was smaller 1 bedroom penthouse) and it sold for full price in 6 days! It closed two weeks before #1502.
When you are an agent handling both sides, it can be a tricky situation. In the situation of #1502, the listing agent took over the listing from another agent who had last priced it at $3,199,000. The new (current) agent took over the listing and convinced the seller that the price should be reduced to $2,995,000 ( I am gussing that agent said ”this is where I think I can get it sold!”) Now, 9 months later, this agent allows his client to sell it for One Million Dollars less? Wow. This is really a total head scratcher to me, especially after just selling the other penthouse in the building at full price. Did the buyer get a good price? I think a VERY good price! And while this is great for the buyer, I am not totally happy because I worked with some buyers who bought another penthouse at The Elizabeth 3 years ago… and it affects their value now. The market has not been going down the last 3 years!
What is the reason that this unit sold for $1,000,000 less that what the agent originally said it was worth? I don’t have the answer to this. This will end up being a tremendous purchase for the buyer. Not so good for the seller!
I mentioned how, with patience, you can get good values. I really did not see this one coming though. Now, the new buyer will pick up a stunning penthouse and put some money into it ( total kitchen remodel) and have an amazing unit. Let’s say this buyer invest $400,000 into this unit. At $2,300,000, you will have one of the nicest penthouse condos in town for $668 a sq. ft.! Compare this to the smaller penthouse units being offered at Vista for $1044 to $1228 a sq. ft. You have heard me talking about the benefits of buying some of the older penthouse units and putting some money into them… this is a prime example, and you will get to choose all of your finishes to your taste and chances are they will be even a little more higher end than what you will get at Vista …and for almost half the price per square foot! This new penthouse comp in the market will certainly NOT help to sell those remaining penthouses at Vista.
The market has noticeably slowed down, especially in the condo market. Are there deals to be had moving forward? Yes!
Everyone always wants the best value when they are buying a home and in this market, here is the best way to purchase a home/condo at a discount to the market. Now keep in mind this is only my opinion, but moving forward, I believe you will see some clarity in what I am saying.
When something is priced right, you will most likely not get a “deal” on that home as it will most likely sell in a reasonable timeframe. Where will you get a deal? You will find your best deals in homes or condos that were originally overpriced. In the condo market this usually happens for one of two reasons. First, there are some agents who “Buy” listings. In other words, they tell the seller a higher price than the true value in order to get a listing over a competing agent. You have heard me say it before and I will say it again… this is a bad way of doing business that certain agents use and in the end, it hurts sellers. After sitting on the market with no offers and no showings, the listing agent tells the seller they need to drop the price. ( Usually down to where it should have been priced!) Usually, and unfortunately, the seller will keep that agent even though he or she told them they would sell it at the higher price.
The second reason they are overpriced is the agent is not experienced in an area or type of sale. I see it often in the condo markets where an agent just does not understand condo pricing.
Now, back to finding deals in the market! What happens often in this type of market is an overpriced home will sit on the market and go through several price reductions, often blowing right through the floor of where it should have been priced originally. A couple examples of this in the upper end of the condo market:
A unit that I like very much is a penthouse in the Pearl District that is listed at The Elizabeth at $2,950,000. A different agent had this listed previously at $3,650,000, a number I thought was way high! ( and I know this because I sold another penthouse in the building a year earlier for $2,350,000.) My original thought was what could I sell my previous listing for if I put it back on the market. I was thinking $2,700,000 to $2,900,000. Mine was slightly bigger and all on one level, a positive in my book! This is about where I thought the other unit should have come on the market. I believe that if it would have come on the market at the correct pricing, it would probably have sold by now. Now, after months on the market, and multiple price reductions, it will start to get some lower offers… again, this is where you can get some deals in this market! If I am representing a buyer on this property, I truly believe they will now be able to get the property for well under what should have been the true value at around $2,900,000. The best part is you can find these deals in all price ranges, not just the upper end of the market. A buyer with some patience, and that keeps his or her eye on overpriced units will be rewarded in the end. Overpriced units will go through several price reductions and sell for less than they should have!
Oh, I said a couple examples above didn’t I? If you are a penthouse buyer l looking for a deal… here is one I have talked about before, several times actually.
If you read my last blog post, you may recall me talking about a penthouse at The Strand that had reduced it’s price to $2,995,000. In my post, I mentioned they would probably start seeing the sharks circling and offer $2.6. Well since that posting, the listing has been reduced once again, this time down to $2,699,900. Now don’t get me wrong, this is a nice penthouse unit with some really nice views but it is at a point where someone is going to get a good deal on this beautiful penthouse! Had this penthouse been priced even close to reality when it was originally listed, it would have sold at a much higher price ( remember, the market was much stronger a year and a half ago)
No matter what your price point is, remember, there are condos out there that are overpriced! Keep an eye on these units and when the time is right…go in and make a low offer and you just might get a great deal!
For those of you who already own a condo and are thinking about selling…please use this as an education to the negative effects of overpricing!
Brad Golik is a condo specialist with Total Property Resources and LuxuryCondosofPortland.com you can reach him at 503-896-8856 or at email@example.com
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We have not seen many new penthouses come onto the market lately in the Pearl District but we should see a nice one come on by the end of this week and it is in one of my favorite buildings, The Elizabeth. This 15th floor Elizabeth penthouse will be priced at $3,650,000 (so I have heard) and offers 3,443 square feet of living space. If you are in the market for a beautiful penthouse in the heart of the Pearl, give me a call and be one of the first to see this unit!
I mentioned that The Elizabeth is one of my favorites and the reason behind that is that it is a building with a ton of details and character! John Carroll, the developer, does some of the best designs in the city and is a developer that actually spends the money for the extra touches that set his buildings apart from the others. Recent development in the Pearl, including Hoyt Properties Vista, seem very vanilla in comparison with not much thought about the architectural aesthetics involved. Even now, as Carroll introduces his newest project, The Dianne, touches of quality design can be seen, even on this building that has been built to house those wanting to rent instead of buying.
Last night as I drove by the Dianne, I noticed that even the lighting on the building gave it a dramatic look that we have not seen in the last several developments in the Pearl. Like buildings before, such as The Gregory and The Elizabeth, you see touches of detail that often get eliminated by most developers that try to squeeze every penny from the development. On the Elizabeth, you notice many details when you walk around the building starting with its trademark entry doors. Then you notice the tremendous amount of the wrought iron designs all around the building that give the Elizabeth its character. These were a tremendous extra cost to the developer that he could have avoided and increased his profits. Instead, this developer choose to make a lasting impact on a great neighborhood that also has much character. For that, I say thank you to developers like John Carroll!
Brad Golik is a condominium specialist with Total Property Resources and LuxuryCondosofPortland.com. You can reach him at 503-896-8856 or at email@example.com
Everyday I bring up the Portland condo list to see any new listings, see if anything has gone pending and to see if old listings have expired or were canceled. Sometimes what I see just makes me shake my head in disbelief. No question, this is a pretty hot market and I do see people paying more than they might normally do. And, while I do not believe we are at a peak yet, it is certainly not a time to let my buyer’s grossly overpay for a property either. Today, a new penthouse came on the market. This is a penthouse at Atwater Place in South Waterfront. The price is $2,700,000 and it is priced at $1000 a sq. ft., the same as what you are seeing at the brand new Cosmopolitan on the Park. Except that at the Cosmo, $1000 gets you up to the 27th floor in a brand new building!
Awhile back I wrote about three penthouse units that were priced in the $3,000,000 range. The first was the 3.8M penthouse at the Cosmo, which I thought would be the first to sell ( it just went Pending again this week). The first one to sell was actually the penthouse at The Elizabeth that was priced at $2,995,000. I represented the buyer on the purchase. You might have read in my blog “Who says it’s a seller’s market?” about the great price my buyer got for that unit… $2,200,000 fully furnished. The third one, and it’s still on the market, is at The Casey and still priced at $3,249,000.
I mention these three units because all three tried to push the $1000 ft barrier. I mentioned I thought the Cosmo would be the first to sell for a few reasons. First, it is a brand new building and brand new buildings always get a premium. Also, at 3.8M this is a property where the buyer can afford to “overpay” and are ok in doing so in order to have “The Best”. The penthouse at the Elizabeth was actually the first to sell and it sold for under $700 a ft.
In mentioning these three units, it helps clarify the pricing on the new Atwater Place penthouse. For one, it is not a new building…so no premium here. 2nd, it is not in The Pearl District…again, no premium here! (While I do like South Waterfront, the Pearl always gets a premium!) Also, keep this in mind, Unit #2403, a NE corner penthouse at Meriwether just went pending at $1,675,000 (598 sq. ft.). It was slightly larger and on a higher floor! At $1000 a sq. ft. the Atwater penthouse is just priced high. Sure, being a penthouse with great river views does justify a high price. (It does have outstanding outdoor living space) Will it sell? Sometimes there will be just the right buyer that loves the place, and the buyers agent usually sells homes in the suburbs and does not understand if a unit is priced high or not. The answer… you never know!
Another listing that was recently brought to me that is not in the MLS is one of the iconic townhomes on 11th in The Pearl. Before I mention this one…I want to show you a few of the comps first. Two units, with 2698 sq. ft. recently sold. One for $1,850,000 the other for $1,900,000. A third sold ( 2 units combined with 3888 sq. ft) for $2,425,000 , or $623 a sq. ft. The third had many high end custom finishes and was designed by the exceptional designer, Jefferey Lamb. Ok, drum roll please…. The new listing , #621 which is 2698 sq. ft… is priced at $2,600,000! Are you kidding me? When I questioned the agents pricing, he mentioned that all three of the comps were going through substantial remodeling. Ok, lets use the combined unit that sold for $2,425,000. Let’s say the new buyer decides he wants to put in an additional $400,000 in remodeling. This would still put this unit at $726 a sq. ft. , or $237 a sq. ft. less than #621 which is at an absurd $963 a ft!
Now you know why I just have to shake my head sometimes in the mornings while looking at new listings!
My purpose of writing about some of these overpriced units is not to beat up on them, but only to help educate buyers so that they don’t overpay for a unit. If you are a buyer in the market for a Portland condo, I know this market inside and out, especially the high end of the market. I would love to help you find your next dream condo so please, give me a call and we can begin to turn your dream of owning a luxury Portland condominium, into a reality…for the right price!
Brad Golik is a condominium specialist with Pearl District Properties. His area of focus is The Pearl District, South Waterfront and Downtown Portland. Brad is a founding member of Condo10 and an expert in internet marketing. You can reach him at 503-896-8856 or at firstname.lastname@example.org , www.LuxuryCondosofPortland.com
Just like many days, I start my day at Starbucks getting a cup of coffee and checking emails. Yesterday, while in Starbucks trying to warm up, I was speaking on the phone with a client about the current condo market. A very nice lady sitting next to me had heard a few things I was saying to my client and when I got off my phone she had many questions for me. No matter where you go, people always seem to like to talk real estate! This person, who I will call Sue, had many questions but the one she seemed to have the most interest in where my thoughts on the new Cosmopolitan. I did start the conversation with her explaining that I have discussed this project many times here on my blog, and it has not always been favorable. She explained to me that she was one of buyers that have now pushed the project to 88% sold. But she was insistent that I give her my honest opinion…so I did! I did start the conversation saying it was a nice building that I believe residents will enjoy for sometime. She asked me about the pricing and I explained to her my take on the pricing. When I explained that I thought it was fairly overpriced she agreed with me and then went on to explain why she bought. The current unit she was in had it’s views blocked by a new building and she wanted something with a view. She said she had been waiting for a view unit to come on the market but got tired of waiting. This is why she said she decided to pay a higher price than she felt comfortable with. I believe this is the exact situation that most of the Cosmopolitan buyers ran into. They wanted something in a nicer building and nothing was coming on the market! They did not have many options and decided to pay a higher price instead of waiting. After discussing the pricing of the building, Sue then asked me what I thought about the building. Being a future owner, I wanted to be somewhat polite and gave her somewhat of a sugar coated answer. She saw right through my answers, looked me in the eyes and said “What do you really think?” So, I told her!
I told her that early on in the design process the developer had called on many of the top condo agents to give some feedback on the project and to make suggestions as to what they thought our clients would like, which at the time I thought was a smart thing to do. There were some very good suggestions that agents made, most were not implemented. For example, large decks. This is something all condo buyers would like to have. The final build out is nearing the end and one thing I will say, VERY small decks for a majority of the owners! Other simple things were suggested. One of my suggestions, which I had seen in buildings in Seattle and Denver, was a small area on the Mezzanine level where owners could take their dogs for a walk, and do their business. This so that owners don’t have to go down to street level and worry about safety later at night. Again, it didn’t happen. Other agents had suggested a better variety of cabinetry. While Pedini is nice, it’s not for everyone. So instead of variety, the future owners were offered super contemporary with a choice of light, medium and dark! This was something Sue said she struggled with. To me, it did not seem that the developers listened to the agents much. While I was hoping for something very special, to me it is just like The Metropolitan, just a little taller. Now don’t get me wrong, I love The Metropolitan! In fact, architecturally, I like the exterior look of The Metropolitan much more. But for the prices being paid, I was hoping for more. For something pretty special. For these $800 to $1200 a square foot prices, I was hoping for a building with more amenities like those in the Insignia in Seattle, Lumina in San Francisco , Bellevue Towers in Bellevue,WA. Or Spire in Denver. ( http://www.insigniabybosa.com/#/tour , http://luminasf.com/amenities/ ,
http://bellevuetowers.com/#building , http://www.spiredenver.com/amenities/ )
Now, some of these nice amenities come with a price, higher HOA fees. Part of the problem with most of our buildings is that we do not build high enough. While 28 stories at The Cosmopolitan is a good start, it is still not enough to spread the cost of amenities like those at the above mentioned buildings. When you have a building that is closer to 40 stories, it is much easier to spread the cost among more owners. When I toured Spire in Denver, CO (41 stories), I was blown away by the fantastic amenities…and then I was really blown away when I saw the owners were paying about half of what typical owners in Portland’s nicer buildings were paying for their HOA fees. While there are many people that are opposed to building higher, it is what makes the most sense if people want nicer amenities and also keeping their monthly cost lower. Imagine if you will, in the location of the current Centennial Mills, a beautiful waterfront condo building much like that of Bellevue towers. Two 40 story towers that offer the most amazing views, and to be right on the river! Sit on your large deck and take in views of Mt. Hood and the Willamette River. Between the two towers, you have a spacious, park like mezzanine level where you sit by an outdoor fire sipping wine and watching ships pass by! In the summer months, you join your neighbors at the outdoor theatre to watch movies. Perhaps you are a little more active and wish to go swim laps in the indoor pool and then relax afterward in the steam room or sauna.
Ok, back to reality! Big, usable decks would have been a good start!
Brad Golik is a condominium specialist with Pearl District Properties. If you would like to tour some of Portland’s luxury condominium buildings, call Brad at 503-896-8856 or visit http://www.LuxuryCondosofPortland.com
This week there were two new penthouse condos that came on the market. One was priced at $1,995,000 and the other at $2,200,000. Yesterday I toured the unit with the higher price. The agent is pushing the fact that it was named “Top 10 penthouses to die for” on MSN Real Estate… I however, was not as impressed. Let’s start with what is right with this beautiful unit. The architectural elements throughout this penthouse were very nice. Warm woods on the floors and ceiling gave a cozy feeling to the unit. But when paying over $2,000,000, cozy is maybe not the feeling I would want! Having three bedrooms and three parking spaces is a nice plus. The finishes in the bathrooms and kitchen were very nice. Now with what I did not like about this unit. I felt somewhat cramped in this 2,239 square foot unit. The main living area seemed very tight to me. While the kitchen was nice, it featured GE Monogram appliances instead of the typical higher end Sub Zero and Wolf appliances we are accustomed to seeing in this price point. The biggest disappointment was the outdoor living area. While the deck was a spacious 800+ square feet, it faces west directly into the 405 freeway noise! The freeway is only one block away. In addition, this is a mid rise building, and while yes it is a penthouse, you still have the neighbors next door at Avenue Lofts and Irving Street Lofts looking down onto your deck so not much privacy. At $2,200,000, my expectations in this price would be something more like the PH3 that sold at the Metropolitan last year for $2,240,000. That penthouse had 3,245 square feet and a massive deck that was pretty much on top of the world with total privacy in one of Portland’s most desirable buildings!
The other unit that came on the market was priced at $1,995,000 and away from the freeways in the heart of the Pearl District. Slightly larger with 2,550 square feet, this unit just lives much larger. While the deck space is smaller than the other penthouse, it still has plenty of space with 628 square feet with 3 mountain views and a much quieter location so that you would actually use your deck! This unit is in one of my favorite loft style buildings… The Elizabeth!
If you would like to tour either of these Portland penthouse units or any other luxury condominiums in Portland, give me a call and we can set up a tour and take a look at some of Portland’s most beautiful condominiums. If you are looking to buy a condo in Portland, OR., why not work with Portland’s condo specialist!
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