I have recently received a few emails asking why I have not written anything about the new Vista North Pearl. The answer, I guess, is that nothing seems to be too exciting about the project. And, not that it matters, but I have not had to deal with nasty emails from the sales manager at Hoyt Properties, who did not like my opinions on the Cosmopolitan!
So, what are the differences in the two projects? Well let’s start with the Cosmopolitan. Contrary to what the sales manager said to me “I thought you hated this building!”, I NEVER said I did not like the project. What I DID say is that I did not like the pricing. (Great for the developer…not so great for the buyers). As it turned out, because of the low inventory levels at the time, they were able to capture those high prices. Again, the timing in the market was “perfect” for the developers. How about this time around with the Vista? Well, the market has changed and Hoyt will not have such an easy time selling units at excessive prices. As of the middle of last month, Vista had 95 units available (out of 153) or 38% of the units sold. Keep in mind, the Cosmopolitan was being marketed as the nicest condo building in town. Vista, from what everything I have heard, will be a notch below that of the Cosmopolitan in terms of finishes and the building as a whole.
Let’s start with the most popular corner, the SE corner, which was the first to sell out in the Cosmo. For comparison sake I will use units on the 14th floor. The Cosmo pricing for the SE corner on the 14th floor was $649 a square foot. The pricing for the Vista is 780. Now, a look at the NE corner 15th Floor (1517) in the Cosmopolitan was sold at $620 a square foot. The 15th floor unit at Vista (1506) is being offered at $750 a square foot. While the market eventually did catch up to the excessive prices at the Cosmopolitan, I don’t believe that the Vista prices should be selling at a premium like the Cosmopolitan. Units on the west side are pretty equally priced to that of the Cosmo.
Finally, let’s look at the penthouse units. At the Cosmopolitan, the range was from $950 a square foot to $1200 for the top floor 28th floor penthouses. For Vista, the range is $1052 to $1247. Let me repeat this one fact, the Cosmopolitan penthouses were being marketed as the best in the city in Portland’s most luxurious building! In addition, the top floor at the Vista it is only 21 stories. What is interesting here, if my memory serves me right, is that the units at the Cosmopolitan (floors 20 –28) were given a minimum premium of $88,000 per floor! At the time of this writing, I don’t believe that one of the six penthouse units at the Vista is pending. I cannot say that I am surprised. I would never pay anything close to what the penthouse units sold for at The Cosmopolitan. The Cosmopolitan is a superior, more elegant building (pitched as the nicest in the city) and there is no way prices at the Vista should compare! Again, this is just my opinion… or maybe not just my opinion. Ask any of the residents at the Cosmopolitan above the 21st floor and see what they say?
I am sure I will continue to get the cold shoulder from the developers’ sales manager…but am I wrong? I don’t believe so. Let me be clear. This is not personal but simply my professional opinion. As someone who understands condo pricing, I write about what I believe to be true and it might not always match the opinions of others, and that is OK!
There are things I like about the Vista. If you read my blog about the Cosmopolitan, one of the negatives noted was that many of the units had a very high ratio of hall space to usable space (many units were 12-14%) This is not the case with the Vista. Almost all the units are in the 4-8% range with the exception of the D4 Plan, the 08 stack) as it came in about 13%. In this case, you have a unit that is 1435 square feet and the unit has about 194 square feet of hallway space.
The Vista floor plans also provide MUCH more space to walk around the end of your bed in the master bedroom, a problem in many of the units at The Cosmopolitan. Another highlight of the Vista is its large deck spaces.
All in, I believe the Vista will be a nice building. As for the prices? The market will, in the end, determine the final prices. As of now, the lower units seem a little high and the penthouse units, I believe, are way too high.
If you are looking to buy at the Vista or would also like to look at other buildings, I am a condominium specialist and would be happy to show you available units. If you are thinking about selling in the near future, I encourage you to go to http://www.LuxuryCondosofPortland.com/marketing and learn a little about our approach to selling you condo!
Brad Golik is a condominium specialist with LuxuryCondosofPortland.com and Pearl District Properties. He can be reached at 503-896-8856 or at email@example.com.
See aerial Drone footage of the Vista location within the Pearl District at http://www.VistaPortland.com
When writing a blog one must be knowledgeable about their subject material. The blogger must also put themselves out there when offering opinions and realize that they will not always be right. I often try to share my opinions on pricing and will be the first to admit when I am wrong. This would be the case regarding a comment I made in a post a few weeks ago. Just to clarify things, I was wrong on my guarantee, not my opinion of the price! At that time a new penthouse came on the market for $3,250,000. My comment was that this unit was way overpriced and I “guaranteed” we would see some price adjustments. Well we did not! And in fact, the unit is now pending.
After I made this comment, I checked with some friends in the business as to what they thought the pricing should be. Almost every one of them was thinking the same thing…or very close to it. The first comment was that it was Benson Tower, which is not really comparable to Portland’s nicer buildings such as The Cosmopolitan, The Metropolitan or The Casey, to name a few. Not one of those agents believed that it was worth more than $1000 per square foot. (about $2,600,00) let alone the $1257 per square foot listing price. For one, the neighborhood does not justify the pricing. It is not The Pearl District which always gets a bit of a premium. Second, that area of downtown has deteriorated the last few years. While this unit does feature fantastic outdoor space, the living room area is very small. One of the other issues that I also feel is important is the quality of the other units in a building. No other $1,000,000 + units have sold in the Benson Tower. Last week a 26th floor unit came on the market at $1,400,000, possibly trying to ride the high priced coattails of the penthouse. I believe this unit should be priced below two of the units for sale at The Henry that are larger and priced below $1,300,000. The point here is that it is easier to get a higher price when you have other units that support the upper end of the market.
Overpricing a unit can have negative effects on it’s sale. In the case of the penthouse priced at $3,250,000, I believe that the buyer may not have been educated enough on the Portland penthouse and luxury condo market. It is possible that the agent does not understand this area of the market as well. While we don’t know the offer was on this unit, what we do know is that if the buyer paid anything over $1000 per square foot…he or she paid way too much! There is absolutely no way any unit at Benson Tower should have pricing anywhere near some of the premier buildings in town. Remember, this is a building where the finishes are far below those of other buildings and you have to haul your garbage down the elevator. Not an ideal situation for someone that is spending $3,000,000! There are many top floor penthouses in town that deserve a premium price to others…this is not one of them!
This posting helps emphasize the importance of working with a specialist. You may have heard me say this before but it is very important. If you are buying farmland in Dundee or a waterfront home in Lake Oswego, it is important to deal with an agent who understands that market. While every agent will probably tell you they understand every market, the truth is, unless you are in it every day, it is difficult to do so. I believe that the days of a real estate agent trying to be all things to all people in all areas are gone. An agent who takes the time to learn a specific area of the market will be far more valuable to a buyer or seller and the example used above helps prove that fact.
Brad Golik is a condominium specialist with Pearl District Properties. Brad works with luxury condo buyers and sellers in Downtown Portland, South Waterfront and The Pearl District. If you are looking to buy or sell…work with a pro!
The tallest condo building in the Pearl! Welcome to The Cosmopolitan. Breathtaking views are the highlight of the Pearl Districts newest condominium in the North end of the Pearl Distict.
Just yesterday I was having a conversation with two other agents who do a fair number of condo sales. The topic of conversation was the market and the consensus was that it has definitely seen a slowdown in pricing. With the increase in inventory, we are noticing a slowdown in terms of appreciating prices. In some cases, the pricing could even be slightly less than what we have been experiencing for so long.
And then this happens! Just this morning, on the MLS, a penthouse unit at The Casey went from pending to sold. The unit never hit the market. The sold price, brace yourself, $4.5 million cash! Unit #1503, is a 3667 square foot condo that faces the West Hills. Consider these numbers for a moment. At $4.5 million, this is $1227 per square foot! Let’s compare this to the recent penthouse sales at The Cosmopolitan. Now keep in mind, for comparison sake I will use the penthouse units from the 27th and 28th floors at the Cosmo. The combined unit on the 27th floor sold for $5,441,294, or $1216 a square foot. The two top floor penthouses on the 28th floor sold for $1215 and $1225 a square foot. These units are 13 stories higher and have superior views of the Mt. Hood, Mt St. Helens, the city and the Willamette River.
I will say, The Casey has always been one of my favorite buildings… but really? Is this unit worth nearly a million more than a 28th floor, true penthouse that is 13 floors higher? While the Casey unit does have around 400 square feet more space, (which does not really mean that much once you get over 3,000 square feet) the potential for having views blocked are much higher for a unit that is only 15 stories compared to a unit that is 28 stories. After all, one of the reasons people paid such a premium for these Cosmo units is the fact that the views will be protected much more by being that high up.
What is even more interesting is when we compare the sale of this unit to one that just recently sold at the Casey, unit #1602. This true penthouse unit one floor above has similar views. It has 3273 square feet and sold for $2.75million or $840 a square foot….WOW!
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The $6,000,000 penthouse condo?
Will 2017 open the year with a $6,000,000 condo listing? And if so, which unit justifies a $6,000,000 price tag in Portland, OR.? In the last year we have seen the movement of several of Portland’s highest priced penthouse condos including the $3.8 Million penthouse condo at the new Cosmopolitan. Also, the most expensive sale of a condo in Portland, again at the Cosmopolitan, the combined 27th floor unit that sold for over $5,000,000!
So, what about this $6,000,000 condo? And, which building is it in? Well if you have $6,000,000 to spend and want to get the early jump on viewing this unit before it hits the MLS, give me a call! While I can’t disclose what building it is in (at this moment) what I can say is that it does have some of the most spectacular views in the city… and here is a hint, it has one of the most spectacular views “of” the city! If you want a nice condo with similar amazing views, for $2,500,000 less, don’t overlook the beautiful penthouse unit at The Westerly. I have said many times, the view from this building does not just look into the city of Portland…it looks over the city of Portland! And with over 4,000 square feet, it is one of my current favorites on the market right now. As for the $3,500,000 price? It could be a little lower considering that it’s next door neighbor just sold for $2,850,000 last year.
One sign of good news in Portland high end condo sales is that the Penthouse unit at The Casey finally went pending after 1 and a half years on the market. If you recall, this unit came on the market at what I believed to be an excessive price of $3,499,000. I would be surprised if it got it’s most recent price of $2,995,000 as it has been priced there for over 5 months now.
If you are in the market for one of Portland’s finest condominiums, give me a call. Part of good negotiating is having a good understanding of pricing. Many agents make the critical error of making a lowball offer on something that is fairly priced or priced low and has supporting comps. However, when something is overpriced we will fight to get you the very best price. Even when something is fairly priced, if the agent listens to things that are said, sometimes that can lead to clues that help the buyer get a great deal! And by the way…if you want the jump on that $6,000,000 condo, give me a call!
Brad Golik is a luxury condo specialist in Portland, OR. If you would like to view any of Portland’s nicest condos, call Brad Golik at 503-896-8856 or email at email@example.com
In all fairness…
I recently wrote in my blog about some issues at The Cosmopolitan in Portland. My comments were not warmly met by the folks at Hoyt Street Properties. In all fairness, I was only stating things that I have heard about going on at The Cosmo.
I do not want to come across as being totally negative on the project so in an act of diplomacy, I thought I would try an experiment. I do not want to just publish negative comments on this project so I am asking owners for some support. I would love to hear from new owners at The Cosmopolitan other than my current sources. I would love for you to send me an email ( firstname.lastname@example.org) and share your experience with the new building… good or bad! Please let me know your thoughts. If it has been a great experience so far, let me know. If it has not been a great experience, please let me know why.
Again, in an attempt to be fair in discussing condo issues in the city, I would love to get your feedback and in turn, I would love to share your responses.
Ok, maybe the title is a little dramatic, but it is close to Halloween and scary things do catch our attention this time of year. So, what is going on at The Cosmopolitan? Well, it is not anything as terrible and scary as what is going on at Millennium Tower in San Francisco ( has sunk 16 inches and tilted 6 inches at the penthouse). What is happening at The Cosmopolitan is very frustrating though for residents who just paid a major premium to be owners there! Lets start with space. Many residents, after moving in their furnishings are just know realizing the space issues we had talked about in a previous blog post I had written. Problems with walking room around beds in many of the units is something I have heard about many times now. Ok, this probably is not the worst thing in the world and people will learn to deal with it. ( who would have thought you would just have to “deal” with anything after you just paid $900 a square foot!)
Most recently, especially after the “Big” storm, many residents complained about the loud whistling and howling noises. Very fitting around the Halloween season! What is going on with that? Anderson Construction has determined ( and we will find out if it is correct or not) that the loud noises are being caused by the backdraft dampers. From previous complaints, they were already adding gasketing material to the fresh air intakes and they will now be doing the same to the backdraft dampers. This repair will take an elaborate 2 point suspension scaffold on the exterior of the building. The scaffolding will initially be set up on the “16” stack of the building. Only time will tell if the issue is in fact what Anderson believes it to be. Either way, a huge disappointment for owners who just paid the highest price per foot ever for new construction in Portland.
Another problem… loud footsteps from above! Really? Several sources have said that footstep noise from above their units is excessive and surprising for a brand new and expensive building. One source said that the sales team had told them they would never hear footsteps with the modern construction techniques and gave assurances to that fact. My take… this is not a low rent apartment building! This is a building with MANY units selling for $1,000,000 or more and buyers paid huge premiums to the average market price to live here. To have such problems so early on is concerning.
Now the problem with space is one thing. It did not help that in the developers( Hoyt Properties) floor plans there are some pretty scaled down furnishings. ( I just double checked. I am curious… who can fit in the chair in the den that measure 1’ 6” wide? )
The other problems (noise issues) are a little more concerning. Hopefully Anderson is correct with the gasket fix and that problem will get solved in a timely matter. And from what I hear from residents, the repair issues are backed up and things are not happening as fast as they would like! As for the “Scary” footsteps from above… I just don’t know what to say!
Brad Golik is a condominium specialist with LuxuryCondosofPortland.com at Pearl District Properties. If you would like to tour any urban condos, just give Brad a call at 503-896-8856.
Design approval for Block 20 recently happened. For more information on this project, click Block 20 http://www.nextportland.com/2016/07/13/block-20-approved/#more-8144
Also, notice of pile driving went out recently!
So how will the timing be for the release of new condos at Block 20? I do not believe they will be as favorable as they were for the developers on The Cosmopolitan. If you remember reading on my blog, Hoyt Development had the perfect storm happen for them when they released their highly priced (a majority in the $600 to $1200 sq. ft. range) units. When the Cosmopolitan was released, inventory levels were at extremely low levels…non- existent almost! They were able to capture crazy pricing because buyers had no other options. That is not the case right now in our market. Today, like everyday, I brought up new condo listings. What was most interesting to see was that there were 11 price reductions! This is something we are starting to see everyday as things have slowed dramatically. So , moving forward, it will be a different environment for the developer.
I took a fair amount of abuse from the developers about my many comments about the Cosmopolitan, most were about pricing. Did they sell out the building at those high prices? Yes! (98%) sold. Good for them and their and their profits! (maybe not so good for the owners) If you recall, my biggest fear of selling a unit at The Cosmopolitan was worry for my clients that the market could slow down or turn around and what would happen to buyers who paid such a big premium when or if that happened… Guess what? That time is here! The market has slowed dramatically. (again, look at price reductions in the market) What will happen when Cosmopolitan buyers need to sell ( job relocation etc.)? Stay tuned. I do not believe it will be a good thing for the seller’s. Another consideration is the high number of apartments that have been built in the downtown area. I feel we must be reaching a point of saturation in the rental market. When this happens, rental rates go down. For the last several years, it has been cheaper to buy instead of renting with rental prices at $2.25 to $2.75 a sq. ft. When rental rates start dropping, you will have more potential buyers going the rental route than we had before. They will be happy to sit on the sideline and let the slowdown happen and be patient before buying.
What about the pricing at the new Block 20 development? One thing I know, construction prices ( concrete, steel, sheet rock) have continued to rise. Will we see prices touching $1000 to $1200 again? I don’t believe so. Much will also depend on the finishes of the building though. Will they compare to that of the Cosmopolitan and The Metropolitan or will they be a notch or two lower?
If you have questions about Block 20 or wish to be on a waiting list for info, please give me a call. If you think there may be some interest in the new project, keep this in mind. It will be important to work with a buyers agent not associated with the developer…remember, the buyers agent works for your benefit, not the developers!
Brad Golik is a condominium specialist with Pearl District Properties.
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A new penthouse off of Westover came on the market today priced at nearly $3,600,000! Here is one more attempt of someone trying to capture the $1,000 a square foot pricing of the new Cosmopolitan. As shown by other recent attempts in the insane pricing range! Just a couple of things I want to say about this listing. The condo, a 5th floor penthouse unit does have a spectacular view looking over the Pearl and the city of Portland. While a nice unit, it just had another 3600 sq. ft. neighbor that just sold at The Westerly for $2,850,000. The unit at the Westerly was a nice unit with two massive decks… clearly a big advantage over the newly listed unit! In addition, it took nearly 5 years for the Westerly penthouse to finally sell. While it can be argued that this new listing has nicer finishes and a better view than the new Cosmopolitan ( although you would never know from the photos!!!), this part of town just should not capture the prices of a true Pearl location. In my opinion, it is priced a little high.
The views, this is what potential buyers will be attracted to.
Now, this is a better example of how to sell someone’s views!
A real positive, a charger in the garage for a Tesla! I happen to know of one couple who made an offer on one of my penthouse listings in the past that this was a very important detail they wanted. With that said, a Tesla charger is not what will help sell this unit for over $3,000,000. Good photographs though would certainly help!
Brad Golik is a condominium specialist with Pearl District Properties and a founding member of Condo10. If you would like to view this newest Portland penthouse, call Brad Golik at 503-896-8856. “I know this market and will negotiate you the best possible price!”
Everyday I bring up the Portland condo list to see any new listings, see if anything has gone pending and to see if old listings have expired or were canceled. Sometimes what I see just makes me shake my head in disbelief. No question, this is a pretty hot market and I do see people paying more than they might normally do. And, while I do not believe we are at a peak yet, it is certainly not a time to let my buyer’s grossly overpay for a property either. Today, a new penthouse came on the market. This is a penthouse at Atwater Place in South Waterfront. The price is $2,700,000 and it is priced at $1000 a sq. ft., the same as what you are seeing at the brand new Cosmopolitan on the Park. Except that at the Cosmo, $1000 gets you up to the 27th floor in a brand new building!
Awhile back I wrote about three penthouse units that were priced in the $3,000,000 range. The first was the 3.8M penthouse at the Cosmo, which I thought would be the first to sell ( it just went Pending again this week). The first one to sell was actually the penthouse at The Elizabeth that was priced at $2,995,000. I represented the buyer on the purchase. You might have read in my blog “Who says it’s a seller’s market?” about the great price my buyer got for that unit… $2,200,000 fully furnished. The third one, and it’s still on the market, is at The Casey and still priced at $3,249,000.
I mention these three units because all three tried to push the $1000 ft barrier. I mentioned I thought the Cosmo would be the first to sell for a few reasons. First, it is a brand new building and brand new buildings always get a premium. Also, at 3.8M this is a property where the buyer can afford to “overpay” and are ok in doing so in order to have “The Best”. The penthouse at the Elizabeth was actually the first to sell and it sold for under $700 a ft.
In mentioning these three units, it helps clarify the pricing on the new Atwater Place penthouse. For one, it is not a new building…so no premium here. 2nd, it is not in The Pearl District…again, no premium here! (While I do like South Waterfront, the Pearl always gets a premium!) Also, keep this in mind, Unit #2403, a NE corner penthouse at Meriwether just went pending at $1,675,000 (598 sq. ft.). It was slightly larger and on a higher floor! At $1000 a sq. ft. the Atwater penthouse is just priced high. Sure, being a penthouse with great river views does justify a high price. (It does have outstanding outdoor living space) Will it sell? Sometimes there will be just the right buyer that loves the place, and the buyers agent usually sells homes in the suburbs and does not understand if a unit is priced high or not. The answer… you never know!
Another listing that was recently brought to me that is not in the MLS is one of the iconic townhomes on 11th in The Pearl. Before I mention this one…I want to show you a few of the comps first. Two units, with 2698 sq. ft. recently sold. One for $1,850,000 the other for $1,900,000. A third sold ( 2 units combined with 3888 sq. ft) for $2,425,000 , or $623 a sq. ft. The third had many high end custom finishes and was designed by the exceptional designer, Jefferey Lamb. Ok, drum roll please…. The new listing , #621 which is 2698 sq. ft… is priced at $2,600,000! Are you kidding me? When I questioned the agents pricing, he mentioned that all three of the comps were going through substantial remodeling. Ok, lets use the combined unit that sold for $2,425,000. Let’s say the new buyer decides he wants to put in an additional $400,000 in remodeling. This would still put this unit at $726 a sq. ft. , or $237 a sq. ft. less than #621 which is at an absurd $963 a ft!
Now you know why I just have to shake my head sometimes in the mornings while looking at new listings!
My purpose of writing about some of these overpriced units is not to beat up on them, but only to help educate buyers so that they don’t overpay for a unit. If you are a buyer in the market for a Portland condo, I know this market inside and out, especially the high end of the market. I would love to help you find your next dream condo so please, give me a call and we can begin to turn your dream of owning a luxury Portland condominium, into a reality…for the right price!
Brad Golik is a condominium specialist with Pearl District Properties. His area of focus is The Pearl District, South Waterfront and Downtown Portland. Brad is a founding member of Condo10 and an expert in internet marketing. You can reach him at 503-896-8856 or at firstname.lastname@example.org , www.LuxuryCondosofPortland.com